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It's just before a Mavericks basketball game at the
American Airlines Center in Dallas. “Bringing Down the
House” blasts from the speakers. Fat guys in blue face
paint scream. Kids wave oversized foam hands. But
there's no bigger fan than the Mavs' 48-year-old owner,
Mark Cuban. Dressed in a sleeveless gray T-shirt, jeans,
and leather sandals, Cuban is kicking back on a black
leather sofa in the lavish underground hangout he calls
the Bunker Suite. There are five plasma screens on the
wall, a full bar, and a rack of Mavs jerseys to choose
from for game time.
Of all the billionaires in the world, Cuban acts like
he's having the most fun with his money. A working-class
geek from Pittsburgh, he had the guts and prowess to
gamble on tech stocks and start-ups long before the
world knew about the Web. Since making his fortune with
Broadcast.com, an early Internet radio site, he has been
building his digital empire: a cinema chain (Landmark
Theaters), a high-definition television channel (HDNet),
and a movie company to put out the goods (2929
Entertainment). “The ultimate objective is just to have
fun,” he says, “enjoy life.”
Cuban's success hasn't come from being polite. When
he's not calling the Google guys “morons” for buying
YouTube, he's taking on Hollywood's antiquated
distribution methods by releasing a film on TV, in
theaters, and on DVD on the same day. So what drives
Cuban to risk his money and reputation again and again?
Partly, he says during an extensive interview, his love
of technology and all things digital.
In the first of two installments, Cuban discusses his
thoughts on the nascent industry for HDTV.
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SPECTRUM: What are the biggest challenges
facing the HDTV industry?
CUBAN:
Programming and marketing. You know, we've got to
compete with programming like everybody else. We've got
to come out there and develop great programming, and
I've got to get out there and market it. We've got a
great foundation from a programming perspective: HDNet
Movies will have 12 day and date releases.
SPECTRUM: In
the Landmark Theaters and other theaters?
CUBAN: It
will play other theaters as well. And on DVD. And so if
you want to watch it for free, you've got to be an HDNet
Movie subscriber. That's part of how we build up our
base. You know, get great movies like Enron: The Smartest Guys in
the Room [2005] that's only been showing
on HDNet Movies, or you have to buy it on DVD or see it
in the theaters.
SPECTRUM: How
is that all going to work?
CUBAN: Well,
it's a simple process. If you're going to create
content, create it digitally and then just find out how
consumers want to consume it. Sometimes they want to
consume it in the home. Sometimes they want to consume
it on their PDAs. Sometimes they want to get out of the
house and go into a theater. And they want to consume it
in different quality levels: Super hi-def, regular
hi-def, on a small TV, analog to download, whatever. If
you want to be able to control your own destiny, you
want to have that vertical chain of control. It's that
simple a concept. By owning Landmark Theaters, we can
take all of your movies and put them in theaters. By
owning the content, and producing the movies, we can
make the choice: put them in theaters, and put them on
DVD, and put them on HDNet movies, all the same day. And
price it so that you would have to pay a premium to get
it on DVD, and you get value if you subscribe to HDNet
movies, and you get that movie for free as part of your
subscription. Or if you just want to get out of the
house and just go on a date with your wife, go to a
Landmark or other theater that's playing it. However you
want to consume it.
SPECTRUM:
What happens in Hollywood then? What does this do to the
current distribution model?
CUBAN: Well,
it should make things better for Hollywood. Hollywood
thinks it's a great idea. The people who are complaining
are big theater owners [who are] saying, “Why would
people leave the house if they can get movies the same
day?” I'm like, Wait, you think you can't compete with
someone watching a 27-inch TV, with the kids screaming,
or the telephone ringing versus getting out of the house
to go on a date? You're gonna have cabin fever sooner or
later. You can watch every Mavs game on TV but it's a
whole different experience when you go to the game. And
in fact, there's research that says the more games you
[put] on TV, the better your attendance, because people
develop a stronger allegiance. The movie theater
industry has a long way to go. They still think they are
in the movie business. They still think owning a theater
is about showing movies. It's not. It's about being a
great place to go on a date; it's about being a great
place to go with your friends. It about a great way to
get out of the house so you can get away from the kids
and enjoy yourself. They just can't figure that out, so
they feel threatened.
SPECTRUM:
What about just the HD set adoption?
CUBAN: That's
a no-brainer. That's happened left and right. I mean,
these screens are under a thousand bucks. Three years
ago they were $5000. They keep going down in price. I
just saw one today for $999 bucks. You could buy a
42-inch LCD for $400 bucks. It's over. It's over. Why
would you even buy an analog set?
SPECTRUM: So
why then is it taking so long for there to be more HD
content?
CUBAN:
Because it's owned mostly by public companies who don't
want to spend the money, which is part of the
opportunity for me.
SPECTRUM: It
just seems like there would be tremendous opportunity.
CUBAN: Amen.
Amen, that's exactly why we did it. Five years ago when
we started HDNet, everyone said they're so expensive, no
one is going to want to buy those TVs. I'm like, they're
just PCs, right? They are the same type of technology.
So, what does that mean? The price is going to go
[down]. Performance is going to go [up]. No one is
coming up with improvements on tube TVs and analog TVs,
so it's inevitable. All I have to do is be there when it
becomes ubiquitous. Here we are. It's not ubiquitous
yet, but it's getting there.
SPECTRUM: So
how does owning a basketball team fit in with that? Does
it fuel that?
CUBAN: Well,
it helps fuel it in that, for high HDNet subscribers in
Dallas, I could put the Mav games on TV and that gives
people an incentive to [get] HDNet.
SPECTRUM:
Yeah, it's simple. And yet I've been surprised there
hasn't been more.
CUBAN: It's
just expensive. You can't convert Roseanne to hi-def;
it was shot on tape. Or, if they have special effects
that were mastered on tape, the show doesn't convert to
HD, it doesn't work...When you watch something on ESPN
or CBS, it looks great. And then you watch something on
one of your other [channels] and it looks like
something's wrong. That's because it's been converted.
Why? Because some of the stuff just won't convert. And
Comcast wants to pretend they don't charge you extra for
it. They just charge $5 for the box, which is the same
as saying they charge you extra for it. Other companies
don't charge you for the box. They just charge for the
content. But if you look at INHD, they have no
programming, but you can watch the same rugby stuff and
it looks great. That stuff was shot in HD. The networks,
the cable networks in particular, aren't willing to
convert all their stuff over, because they already have
so much licensed that's not HD-compatible. If it goes to
HD, they look [terrible]. So, that's an opportunity for me.
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for the next part of this
interview, Cuban takes on YouTube,
Bit Torrent, Microsoft, and Google.